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Fašizem, tukaj in zdaj
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Re: Fašizem, tukaj in zdaj
WHOOOOA BIG FELLA; WHOOOA.
Re: Fašizem, tukaj in zdaj
Charlottesville. USA. 2017 (WorstCosplayEver):
oz še ena druščina zlorabljenčkov, wannabe soldiers of fortune, ki se hočjo it vojno. A ko bi šlo zares, bi vsi fasali kako hudo zdravniško opravičilo.
oz še ena druščina zlorabljenčkov, wannabe soldiers of fortune, ki se hočjo it vojno. A ko bi šlo zares, bi vsi fasali kako hudo zdravniško opravičilo.
WHOOOOA BIG FELLA; WHOOOA.
Re: Fašizem, tukaj in zdaj
Ne vem, zakaj so fašisti takoj užaljeni, če jih označijo za fašiste. 
http://www.jutarnji.hr/vijesti/hrvatska ... n/6469837/
ali kot je napisal pod tekstom neki komentator:
"koji šupci ti usraše, čim ih se prozove samo viču nisam ja"
http://www.jutarnji.hr/vijesti/hrvatska ... n/6469837/
ali kot je napisal pod tekstom neki komentator:
"koji šupci ti usraše, čim ih se prozove samo viču nisam ja"
Re: Fašizem, tukaj in zdaj
Pri nas je sicer za spoznanje bolje, je pa stališče RKC povsem enako kot čez Kolpo.
http://www.delo.si/svet/sosescina/hrvas ... astvo.html
http://www.delo.si/svet/sosescina/hrvas ... astvo.html
Re: Fašizem, tukaj in zdaj
Mnenje Egipčana o nas Evropejcih na forumu historum po zadnjih napadih (seveda se strinjam z njim):
"The big problem here is that most of you dont know what you talk about.
Egypt had a much bigger problem. The islamists were allowed into power and now that we remove them with force of course they try to stop that. Europe would be totally helpless regarding that.
When you see riots in Europe you see that weakness. Those so called "human rights" crush you down. Where are the human rights of the victims? They are sacrificed for a perverse agenda.
Last month in Hamburg was civil war like events at the G20 summit. Police did nothing and allowed leftist hordes to sack entire city quarters.
In Egypt we would open fire on them. The islamists here shake when we capture them. In europe they know nothing will happen. They fear us and laugh about you.
In the current events the same thing can be seen. media show the father of one of the terrorists who mourns his son in TV and is accompanied by friends and families mourning...
Same happened with that bastard who did the terror attack at Berlin christmas market.
We all know his pathetic family...
Why is this pack of subjects still roaming free? Why isnt their house demolished yet? Why do they get media attention and their "suffering" is shown?
You know what suffering stays completly anonymous? The victims.
They are faceless. They are nameless. We dont know them. We dont know their families.
And there is a reason for that. The european regimes try evrything they can to divert attention from this. They fear people could show solidarity to the victims and start to crack the perverse system there. The media are identical with the regime and follow the game.
This wont work forever.
Egypt isnt perfect and i know our flaws. But i´m intelligent enough to understand whats going on and i´m glad, that my nation is not degenerated down to the level where we have to hide the victims and try to create sympathy for the terrorists."
"The big problem here is that most of you dont know what you talk about.
Egypt had a much bigger problem. The islamists were allowed into power and now that we remove them with force of course they try to stop that. Europe would be totally helpless regarding that.
When you see riots in Europe you see that weakness. Those so called "human rights" crush you down. Where are the human rights of the victims? They are sacrificed for a perverse agenda.
Last month in Hamburg was civil war like events at the G20 summit. Police did nothing and allowed leftist hordes to sack entire city quarters.
In Egypt we would open fire on them. The islamists here shake when we capture them. In europe they know nothing will happen. They fear us and laugh about you.
In the current events the same thing can be seen. media show the father of one of the terrorists who mourns his son in TV and is accompanied by friends and families mourning...
Same happened with that bastard who did the terror attack at Berlin christmas market.
We all know his pathetic family...
Why is this pack of subjects still roaming free? Why isnt their house demolished yet? Why do they get media attention and their "suffering" is shown?
You know what suffering stays completly anonymous? The victims.
They are faceless. They are nameless. We dont know them. We dont know their families.
And there is a reason for that. The european regimes try evrything they can to divert attention from this. They fear people could show solidarity to the victims and start to crack the perverse system there. The media are identical with the regime and follow the game.
This wont work forever.
Egypt isnt perfect and i know our flaws. But i´m intelligent enough to understand whats going on and i´m glad, that my nation is not degenerated down to the level where we have to hide the victims and try to create sympathy for the terrorists."
Zadnjič spremenil macon, dne 19.08.2017 14:51:39, skupaj popravljeno 1 krat.
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"I have some time now to explain something you propably dont understand.
You dont know what you deal with. Those subjects (i denie them their human nature) do not want reason with you. They dont want negotiate. They have no higher goal. They want you dead. They want you suffer. Thats their only goal and target.
I find it amusing how headless europeans react regarding that, because your common ideology makes it impossible to understand that.
They have the most degenerated and twisted ideology. Most groups that committ evil are fully aware of that fact. The Nazis for example did not build their concentration camps in popular areas. They tried to hide what was going on.
Islamists dont hide their crimes. They celebrate it in public. They love to see suffering of their victims. To create suffering is their only goal. No crime is to low that it would not be done from them. As you can see when they target children (Beslan for example).
My own country made the mistake and let those beasts run wild. We still carry the burden of that.
Do you know what happened in 1997 in my hometown Luxor? You cant imagine. I was a small child and i cant remember but know from evryone till today how much horror happened at the temple of Hatshepsut. Over 60 people murdered inside the temple. The youngest victim a 5 year old child. The people were stabbed, shot, cut open and their organs thrown over the floor.
And "president" Morsi made the leader of that group governor of our region. It was the spark that let the situation explode.
And what we have now is, that we finally do what must be done. We dont just target the islamists. We target all of them. The entire social circle around them. Their families, supporters. Evryone.
They may look harmless, but they raised the monsters. They carry it with themself.
Its so common. A jihadi does his attack and you see his fat mother cry that he is innocent and all that nonsense. The first thing needed to be done is his family to be rounded up. They will never have a single happy day in their life again.
Nobody says its easy. But its working. The number of terror attacks in our central lands declined by over 90%. The hot spots are in the regions like Sinai, where no hard force was used yet to full extent.
When you look at Europe, you see that its a current state of absolute weakness. Such attacks happen again and again and european leaders crawm in their own weakness. They use the very same phrases again and again and just change the location.
There are many rural areas in Europe. It was the egyptian Mukharabat (secret service) that already warned Europe that the next attack could be a group of Jihadis attacking an entire village and kill there for hours.
As i said i dont see your current leaders to be strong enough to do what needs to be done. It will get worse until the right people are in charge and solve this.
and it wont be solved with social justice."
You dont know what you deal with. Those subjects (i denie them their human nature) do not want reason with you. They dont want negotiate. They have no higher goal. They want you dead. They want you suffer. Thats their only goal and target.
I find it amusing how headless europeans react regarding that, because your common ideology makes it impossible to understand that.
They have the most degenerated and twisted ideology. Most groups that committ evil are fully aware of that fact. The Nazis for example did not build their concentration camps in popular areas. They tried to hide what was going on.
Islamists dont hide their crimes. They celebrate it in public. They love to see suffering of their victims. To create suffering is their only goal. No crime is to low that it would not be done from them. As you can see when they target children (Beslan for example).
My own country made the mistake and let those beasts run wild. We still carry the burden of that.
Do you know what happened in 1997 in my hometown Luxor? You cant imagine. I was a small child and i cant remember but know from evryone till today how much horror happened at the temple of Hatshepsut. Over 60 people murdered inside the temple. The youngest victim a 5 year old child. The people were stabbed, shot, cut open and their organs thrown over the floor.
And "president" Morsi made the leader of that group governor of our region. It was the spark that let the situation explode.
And what we have now is, that we finally do what must be done. We dont just target the islamists. We target all of them. The entire social circle around them. Their families, supporters. Evryone.
They may look harmless, but they raised the monsters. They carry it with themself.
Its so common. A jihadi does his attack and you see his fat mother cry that he is innocent and all that nonsense. The first thing needed to be done is his family to be rounded up. They will never have a single happy day in their life again.
Nobody says its easy. But its working. The number of terror attacks in our central lands declined by over 90%. The hot spots are in the regions like Sinai, where no hard force was used yet to full extent.
When you look at Europe, you see that its a current state of absolute weakness. Such attacks happen again and again and european leaders crawm in their own weakness. They use the very same phrases again and again and just change the location.
There are many rural areas in Europe. It was the egyptian Mukharabat (secret service) that already warned Europe that the next attack could be a group of Jihadis attacking an entire village and kill there for hours.
As i said i dont see your current leaders to be strong enough to do what needs to be done. It will get worse until the right people are in charge and solve this.
and it wont be solved with social justice."
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Da levičarji bolj sočustvujejo z napadalci kot z žrtvami terorističnih napadov je navadna bull*hit propaganda desničarske struje. Človek, ki se usede v avto in pregazi čez sto ljudi si ne zasluži nič drugega kot to, česar je bila deležna peterica psihotikov v Barceloni, ko jih je prestregla policija. Je pa drugo vprašanje, zakaj se vse te zločine podtika levičarjem. Kolikor vem, so vsi religiozno motivirani fanatiki po defaultu desničarji - enako kot neonaciji, KKK in ostalo fanatično sr*nje, ki deli ljudi na podlagi prirojenih danosti. Lokalni desničarji se lahko mečete na trepalnice in za vse krivite levičarje, ampak ti psihiči so pravzaprav osebki iz vašega političnega spektra. na koncu se je pač treba samo še vprašati, kdo profitira ob tej antilevičarski propagandi - lokalni skrajni desničarji, seveda (pri nas npr. SDS), ki zahtevajo "odločnega voditelja" in krog je zaključen. Napadi skrajne islamistične desnice pač krepijo zgolj in samo skrajno evropsko desnico.
Zadnjič spremenil lenivec, dne 19.08.2017 17:11:59, skupaj popravljeno 1 krat.
Re: Fašizem, tukaj in zdaj
Jeseniški vahabiti, denimo, imajo popolnoma enak odnos do socializma, Jugoslavije, partizanov in Tita kot janšisti.
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Učinek islamističnih desnih skrajnežev ima seveda takoj učinek pri euro-neonaci desničarskih skrajnežih:
http://www.rtvslo.si/svet/foto-v-berlin ... kov/430414
Najbolje pomenljivo pa njihovo početje opiše tale izjava: "Shod bi najraje prepovedal, a smo ugotovili, da osnovne demokratične svoboščine žal veljajo tudi za kretene," je za radio RBB Inforadio povedal predstavnik berlinskih oblasti, pristojen za notranje zadeve, Andreas Geisel.
http://www.rtvslo.si/svet/foto-v-berlin ... kov/430414
Najbolje pomenljivo pa njihovo početje opiše tale izjava: "Shod bi najraje prepovedal, a smo ugotovili, da osnovne demokratične svoboščine žal veljajo tudi za kretene," je za radio RBB Inforadio povedal predstavnik berlinskih oblasti, pristojen za notranje zadeve, Andreas Geisel.
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lenivec napisal/-a:Da levičarji bolj sočustvujejo z napadalci kot z žrtvami terorističnih napadov je navadna bull*hit propaganda desničarske struje. Človek, ki se usede v avto in pregazi čez sto ljudi si ne zasluži nič drugega kot to, česar je bila deležna peterica psihotikov v Barceloni, ko jih je prestregla policija. Je pa drugo vprašanje, zakaj se vse te zločine podtika levičarjem. Kolikor vem, so vsi religiozno motivirani fanatiki po defaultu desničarji - enako kot neonaciji, KKK in ostalo fanatično sr*nje, ki deli ljudi na podlagi prirojenih danosti. Lokalni desničarji se lahko mečete na trepalnice in za vse krivite levičarje, ampak ti psihiči so pravzaprav osebki iz vašega političnega spektra. na koncu se je pač treba samo še vprašati, kdo profitira ob tej antilevičarski propagandi - lokalni skrajni desničarji, seveda (pri nas npr. SDS), ki zahtevajo "odločnega voditelja" in krog je zaključen. Napadi skrajne islamistične desnice pač krepijo zgolj in samo skrajno evropsko desnico.
Jaz sem ekonomski desničar in ne kulturni. Cerkve ne maram, proti drugim nacijam nimam nič.
Nalimal sem mnenje Egipčana, ki za nas ni povsem relevantno, ker imajo bolj skrajne razmere, bolj avtokratsko družbo in muslimanska bratovščina izhaja iz Egipta. Poanta je, da ne moreš kar vleči v Evropo milijonov muslimanov, ki jih nihče ne preverja, jim potem dajati socialne pomoči, jih strpati v gete, hkrati pa jih noben domačin ne jebe niti 5% in so za njih kot zrak skozi katerega gledajo. Razni Nemci še nas vzhodnih Evropejcev ali bivših socialistov ne jebejo niti 5% in gledajo skozi nas pa hodimo k njim delat in jim ne smetimo po ulicah. Ideje in praktična izvedba naselitve muslimanov v Evropi je leva in levičarska, stokanje o ubogih beguncih je levičarsko, pravice brez dolžnosti so levičarske. Levičarsko je mantranje o krivdi belcev za vse s***** v tretjem svetu. Jaz in ti kot bela moška sva za skrajne levičarje izmeček in po defaultu rasista. Desetletja poslušam o cerkvenemu preganjanju čarovnic, križarskih pohodih in črnih sužnjih v Amerikah, tudi na tem forumu je bilo tega kar nekaj in vse izhaja iz levice in levičarstva. Oprosti, ker se delaš lepega in pišeš prazne izgovore. Mi, desni, trdimo, da ene civilizacije in družbe niso kompatibilne in na istem nivoju razvoja, medtem ko vi levi trdite, da naj se držimo vsi za rokice in bodimo velika srečna družina.
"Odločni" voditelji se bodo pojavili, ko bo naslednja ekonomska kriza in bodo pokazali s prstom na muslimane, folk, ki mu bodo padale perspektive, pa bo povzel že milijonkrat videno naci s*****. Če bi sedaj rekli bobu bob in zagrabili za vrat skrajne klerike in islamske kriminalce izganjali iz EU, bi se temu izognili. Ja, levičarji tega nikakor nočete narediti, je pa nujno potrebno, ker bi bando zatrlo v kali in bi bilo manj bodočega naci sranja.
Te psihiče vseskozi opravičuje in zagovarja samo in izključno evropska levica. Jasno, v momentu, ko koljejo in vozijo čez ljudi, se jih ne da zagovarjati, takrat je "policija, na pomoč!", ko se pospravlja trupla že spet razumemo "kontekst" in kaka žrtev je bil ubogi morilski psihič. Vse to počne sistemska levica.
Super ideja, ki se po mojem skriva zadaj je, da oligarhije hočejo zahodne belce vreči iz srednjega sloja v nižji srednji in med reveže. Nevroze, permisija pa tudi teroristi vsi pomagajo k temu.
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Poleg tega trpanje vsega religioznega pod pojem desno nima zveze niti z modernostjo, kje šele s postmodernostjo. So bili naciji krščansko religiozni (v bistvu so se šli poganski kult s sanjarijami o davni "čisti" zlati dobi, medtem, ko so se šli komunisti kvazi družbeno znanost s sanjarijami o novem človeku)?
Cerkev se tlači pod konzervativno, ampak to je fleksibilen pojem in se opredeli glede na lokalne dejavnike. V Sloveniji ste konzervativni levičarji, ker od 1945 ohranjate levo nadvlado in lev način upravljanja in urejanja družbenih odnosov. Prelom leta 1991 je bil samo delen in v veliko ozirih kozmetičen za zahod. Potem ima konzervativno avtomatski negativni predznak in starejši kot sem, manj razumem, zakaj bi moralo biti spoštovanje družine in tradicionalnih žensko moških vlog konzervativno in avtomatsko negativno. To so družbene in človeške tradicije in postavitve, ki so arhetipske in veliko globje kot delitev levo-desno in konzervativno-napredno.
Cerkev se tlači pod konzervativno, ampak to je fleksibilen pojem in se opredeli glede na lokalne dejavnike. V Sloveniji ste konzervativni levičarji, ker od 1945 ohranjate levo nadvlado in lev način upravljanja in urejanja družbenih odnosov. Prelom leta 1991 je bil samo delen in v veliko ozirih kozmetičen za zahod. Potem ima konzervativno avtomatski negativni predznak in starejši kot sem, manj razumem, zakaj bi moralo biti spoštovanje družine in tradicionalnih žensko moških vlog konzervativno in avtomatsko negativno. To so družbene in človeške tradicije in postavitve, ki so arhetipske in veliko globje kot delitev levo-desno in konzervativno-napredno.
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Saj ni.macon napisal/-a: zakaj bi moralo biti spoštovanje družine in tradicionalnih žensko moških vlog konzervativno in avtomatsko negativno.
Proti njim se renči samo takrat, ko ravno ta družinska konservativna struja vsiljuje svoj način bivanja kot edini zveličaven in diktira drugim, kako naj živijo. Takrat je pač težko ostati strpen, ker naj bi strpnost bila dvosmerna. Nihče jih ne ogroža, a vendar vpijejo v nebo, kot bi jim odirali kožo. S križem veselo zabijajo druge v tla, ko jim ga pa izpuliš, in bi rad še njih malo lopnil po glavi z njim (samo toliko, da vidijo, kako je to), se pa nenadoma sklicujejo na manire, spoštovanje, bla bla bla.
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http://www.maz.hr/2017/08/20/sto-je-u-c ... gore-list/
"Ali kada kod nas ili kod ekstremista u dijaspori slušate o Jugoslaviji, slušate iste priče koje si
američki rasisti pričaju o “državi”. Ljudska prava su “komunizam”, ženska prava su “komunizam”,
seksualne slobode su “komunizam”, školovani ljudi su “Jugoslaveni”, ateisti su “Jugoslaveni”, tko
god nije vjerski ekstremist je “Jugoslaven” i tako dalje. Antisemitizma nam ne nedostaje, samo
zamijenite svake “masone” koje vidite ili čujete izgovorene za “židovi”."
Luka Kordić, MAZ - Mreža antifašistkijna Zagreba
"Ali kada kod nas ili kod ekstremista u dijaspori slušate o Jugoslaviji, slušate iste priče koje si
američki rasisti pričaju o “državi”. Ljudska prava su “komunizam”, ženska prava su “komunizam”,
seksualne slobode su “komunizam”, školovani ljudi su “Jugoslaveni”, ateisti su “Jugoslaveni”, tko
god nije vjerski ekstremist je “Jugoslaven” i tako dalje. Antisemitizma nam ne nedostaje, samo
zamijenite svake “masone” koje vidite ili čujete izgovorene za “židovi”."
Luka Kordić, MAZ - Mreža antifašistkijna Zagreba
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Svetlana Slapšak: Pohlep Cerkve pri nas je resen problem
http://www.delo.si/novice/slovenija/sve ... oblem.html
"Evropa ima bogato fašistično in nacistično tradicijo. Tukaj se je rodila večina totalitarizmov, zato ni čudno, da se pojavljajo
periodično. Družbena in kulturna mobilizacija beguncev, ki so v Evropi vedno pomenili napredek, bi bila proti rasizmu lahko
glavno orožje in idealna priložnost, da se Evropa vrne k svojim tradicionalnim vrednotam. Ali niso grški begunci v Italijo prinesli
znanja in podob, ki so bili ključni za renesanso? Tokrat se jim Evropa odreka, ker se morda res vrača v totalitarni sistem, ki ga
neoliberalizem potrebuje, saj je to edina ureditev, v kateri se lahko vede kot car.
Mogočni kapital tudi v novi podobi potrebuje oblast, ki mu bo omogočila širitev. Rasizem, nacizem in fašizem odlično odgovarjajo
prav neoliberalnim mogotcem, ki se nekje od thatcherjevsko-reaganovsko-gorbačovske dobe opirajo na popolnoma podivjani trg.
Na eni strani imamo kolonizacijsko industrializacijo, na drugi pa so celotne regije industrijsko popolnoma uničene. Novi totalitarizem
državljanom odreka socialno varnost, bogastva pa ne omejuje."
http://www.delo.si/novice/slovenija/sve ... oblem.html
"Evropa ima bogato fašistično in nacistično tradicijo. Tukaj se je rodila večina totalitarizmov, zato ni čudno, da se pojavljajo
periodično. Družbena in kulturna mobilizacija beguncev, ki so v Evropi vedno pomenili napredek, bi bila proti rasizmu lahko
glavno orožje in idealna priložnost, da se Evropa vrne k svojim tradicionalnim vrednotam. Ali niso grški begunci v Italijo prinesli
znanja in podob, ki so bili ključni za renesanso? Tokrat se jim Evropa odreka, ker se morda res vrača v totalitarni sistem, ki ga
neoliberalizem potrebuje, saj je to edina ureditev, v kateri se lahko vede kot car.
Mogočni kapital tudi v novi podobi potrebuje oblast, ki mu bo omogočila širitev. Rasizem, nacizem in fašizem odlično odgovarjajo
prav neoliberalnim mogotcem, ki se nekje od thatcherjevsko-reaganovsko-gorbačovske dobe opirajo na popolnoma podivjani trg.
Na eni strani imamo kolonizacijsko industrializacijo, na drugi pa so celotne regije industrijsko popolnoma uničene. Novi totalitarizem
državljanom odreka socialno varnost, bogastva pa ne omejuje."